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(this mortal coil) notes on faery.
Nov. 17th, 2009 01:58 amI HATE THIS. so i'm looking for some kind of logic or something to my research. and i'm *just* realizing that there are no parallel lines when it comes to legend.
point: for the wild hunt, there's a variety of leaders that range from the legend to the supernatural. so there's a possibility for it to be a real character from history, or a god. or something.
point: in welsh mythology, gwynn ap nudd, god of the underworld, rides at the head of cwn anwnn, the hounds of anwnn. thus, the wild hunt = reaping souls for the underworld. which, basically true for ALL of the wild hunt mythos.
this is where it gets tricky. in irish myth, the head of the hunt is (maybe) fionn mac cumhaill, a real character from history who was the last leader of the Fianna, the standing army for the high king (peter! i mean, sorry. too much narnia in my life right now...).
OR. it's mannanan, son of lir (the sea god) who rides at the front of the Fairy cavalcade (marcradh shiodha). which, ok... i can deal with that and the tuatha de danann because faery = otherworld = underworld. fae = harbingers of death. yay! except where marcradh shiodha also means the children of lir, who were turned into swans in myth. um, swans =/= hellhounds. ever. i mean, in the legend? the children of lir die after 900 years. so the likelihood of them being the soul reapers... low. like not at all on the scale.
so, now i have to work around Sean O'Neill's Lear-esque death (heh, lir = lear, did you know?) and figure out how to get cwn anwnn to = marcradh shiodha. somehow.
also a wrench in the works: lir was fighting nuada (maybe) for rulership of the tuatha de danann (faery, otherworld, as you will). and nuada (airgetlam, thus aragorn, clearly. hahah) paralells with gwynn ap nudd's father (nudd llaw eraint).
huh.
so if tuatha de danann = gods made to live in the sidhe mounds (that is, leaders of the fae), sidhe (mounds) = tir na nog = otherworld = underworld, and lir = nudd, then mannanan = gwynn ap nudd atd the marcradh shiodha = cwn anwnn, because marcradh shiodha = fairy host = the sluagh. WIN. ok. so that took far too much interconnection to work, sure. but now it MAKES SENSE.
here's the current: ( bit )
point: for the wild hunt, there's a variety of leaders that range from the legend to the supernatural. so there's a possibility for it to be a real character from history, or a god. or something.
point: in welsh mythology, gwynn ap nudd, god of the underworld, rides at the head of cwn anwnn, the hounds of anwnn. thus, the wild hunt = reaping souls for the underworld. which, basically true for ALL of the wild hunt mythos.
this is where it gets tricky. in irish myth, the head of the hunt is (maybe) fionn mac cumhaill, a real character from history who was the last leader of the Fianna, the standing army for the high king (peter! i mean, sorry. too much narnia in my life right now...).
OR. it's mannanan, son of lir (the sea god) who rides at the front of the Fairy cavalcade (marcradh shiodha). which, ok... i can deal with that and the tuatha de danann because faery = otherworld = underworld. fae = harbingers of death. yay! except where marcradh shiodha also means the children of lir, who were turned into swans in myth. um, swans =/= hellhounds. ever. i mean, in the legend? the children of lir die after 900 years. so the likelihood of them being the soul reapers... low. like not at all on the scale.
so, now i have to work around Sean O'Neill's Lear-esque death (heh, lir = lear, did you know?) and figure out how to get cwn anwnn to = marcradh shiodha. somehow.
also a wrench in the works: lir was fighting nuada (maybe) for rulership of the tuatha de danann (faery, otherworld, as you will). and nuada (airgetlam, thus aragorn, clearly. hahah) paralells with gwynn ap nudd's father (nudd llaw eraint).
huh.
so if tuatha de danann = gods made to live in the sidhe mounds (that is, leaders of the fae), sidhe (mounds) = tir na nog = otherworld = underworld, and lir = nudd, then mannanan = gwynn ap nudd atd the marcradh shiodha = cwn anwnn, because marcradh shiodha = fairy host = the sluagh. WIN. ok. so that took far too much interconnection to work, sure. but now it MAKES SENSE.
here's the current: ( bit )
